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The following is the (mostly) raw text file from our chat on Tuesday, June 1, 2004. It was logged by Marc Schmalz, so it begins and ends as he enters and leaves the chat room.
Session Start: Tue Jun 01 17:17:04 2004
Session Ident: #TGM
[17:17] *** Now talking in #TGM
[17:17] <effrenatus> Now I have my dot.
[17:17] *** effrenatus sets mode: +o ECagle
[17:17] <ECagle> oooh..I have POWER
[17:17] *** Bynw has joined #TGM
[17:17] *** chat.psionics.net sets mode: +q Bynw
[17:17] *** effrenatus is now known as effrenatus[TGM_Marc]
[17:17] <BrooklynKnight> ok Eric, ya'rr on. If something happens and
ya cant make it,lemmy know
[17:17] *** Bynw sets mode: -q Bynw
[17:17] *** Bynw sets mode: -o Bynw
[17:17] <Browwiw> use it wisely, Eric
[17:17] <ECagle> Nah :)
[17:18] <Browwiw> remember, if you use it for good, your dad will chop
your hand off
[17:18] <BrooklynKnight> hey Chris, i forgot to ask you of all people,
you gonna be coming to my shindig post ennies?
[17:18] <ECagle> With great power comes great....aww, screw it.
[17:18] <BrooklynKnight> A spiderman commercial was just on tv too -_-
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[17:18] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> With great power comes great
utility bills.
[17:18] <Browwiw> "are you going to use your powers for good...or
for awesome?
[17:18] <Garen> hehehe
[17:18] <RichRedman> GREETINGS!
[17:18] <ECagle> REDMAN!
[17:18] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Hey, Rich
[17:18] <ECagle> GET BACK TO WORK
[17:18] <Garen> Where's ODB and the Ghostfaced Killer?
[17:19] <Browwiw> sigh...when did Homestarrunner and *-bit theatre
replace Monte Python at the gaming table...
[17:19] <RichRedman> Hey, Marc - Please make sure to send me a
transcript of last week's chat and this one.
[17:19] <Browwiw> howdy, Rich
[17:19] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Right-O.
[17:19] <ECagle> Marc..no game this week? I'm fuzzy headed..can't
remember
[17:19] <RichRedman> If by "ODB and the Ghostfaced Killer" you mean
JD and Stan!, it's a bit early for JD and Stan!'s at a ballgame
[17:19] *** effrenatus[TGM_Marc] sets mode: +o RichRedman
[17:20] <Garen> Actually, I was making a Wu Tang Clan reference...
[17:20] <RichRedman> I know. I love RZA's work.
[17:20] <ECagle> Kill Bill soundtrack...aww yeah
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[17:20] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Tue Jun 01 17:20:53 2004
Session Start: Tue Jun 01 17:21:09 2004
Session Ident: #TGM
[17:21] *** Now talking in #TGM
[17:21] <ECagle> Mister......Smith.....
[17:21] <effrenatus> This may be a long night.
[17:21] *** effrenatus sets mode: +o MatSmith
[17:21] <Browwiw> I hope JD shows up tonight, I have a couple tedious
and pointless stormtrooper stat block questions that are just
driving me nuts
[17:21] <ECagle> I'll be bouncing between this and cookin' some pig.
[17:21] <MatSmith> AhMister Ca-Gle.
[17:21] <RichRedman> Nope, the nights still getting shorter, for a
few more weeks.
[17:22] <ECagle> Ugh. Stat blocks :)
[17:22] <Browwiw> heh
[17:22] <RichRedman> They are your kryptonite, and the source of all
my powers.
[17:22] <Browwiw> stormtroopers have far too skill points!!! Argghh!!!
[17:22] <ECagle> Just say "if you shoot a stormtrooper, he falls
over dead."
[17:22] <effrenatus> That's how it works in the movies
[17:23] <BrooklynKnight> Stormtroopers arent supposed to have any
lol, they are just cannon fodder with a pretty good BAB and Dex
[17:23] <Browwiw> I am kinda anal about making sure throw-away and
nameless NPCs play totally by the rules
[17:23] <BrooklynKnight> IMO
[17:23] <Browwiw> it took me forever to come up with a scouttrooper
that I liked
[17:23] <ECagle> Storm troopers need love too.
[17:23] <Browwiw> and I've only ever used them twice in a game...
[17:23] <RichRedman> Was his name George?
[17:23] <Browwiw> *sob*
[17:24] <effrenatus> They're all CLONES. Just take one and photocopy
it a bunch.
[17:24] <ECagle> Rich, Marc..did you see my additions on the site?
[17:24] <RichRedman> Uhm, no?
[17:24] <BrooklynKnight> I've made a case for mp3 piracy today :-p.
I downloaded a group called Jedi Mind Trick, being a starwars fan
and thinking it would be good music. To my utter and complete
horror, it was utter crap. It was....rap!
[17:24] <BrooklynKnight> thank god i downloaded and didnt spent a
damned cent.
[17:24] <BrooklynKnight> long deleted by now
[17:24] <Browwiw> oh, god, don't start another 'are they clones or
not' debate
[17:24] <effrenatus> I saw your stuff, yep!
[17:24] <Browwiw> people get rabid over that one
[17:24] <BrooklynKnight> Actually, by A New Hope they arent.
[17:25] <ECagle> look in the Product Collaboration section
[17:25] <BrooklynKnight> there might be SOME
[17:25] <MatSmith> >Cagle: I did--nifty stuff. Mr. Schmalz has a
toy in there too.
[17:25] <BrooklynKnight> The commanders perhaps.
[17:25] <ECagle> Yeah, I just saw that.
[17:25] <BrooklynKnight> But near the end of the clone war the empire
had to start recruiting people for troopers.
[17:25] <BrooklynKnight> hence Cardia
[17:25] <ECagle> But Marc, why did you name it the "crapinator"?
[17:25] <Browwiw> eh. I use EU at my own discretion
[17:25] <effrenatus> I like apes. Duh.
[17:26] <Browwiw> hell, i use movie facts at my own discretion
[17:26] <ECagle> ooh. monkey guns.
[17:26] <Browwiw> until I was 13 I thought stormtroopers were droids
[17:26] <BrooklynKnight> woulda been a tight fit for luke inside a
droid lol
[17:26] <ECagle> Nah, all stormtroopers are dumb-shmo farmers from
Tatoo--er, wait.
[17:26] <BrooklynKnight> I know what would be really cool.
[17:26] <BrooklynKnight> The Empire using an army of Warforged.
[17:27] * BrooklynKnight grins an evil grin.
[17:27] <ECagle> They're only in it for the college money, ya know.
[17:27] <BrooklynKnight> heh
[17:27] <Browwiw> oh, crap
[17:27] <MatSmith> But, where would the Empire get all the gnomes to
pilot the warforged?
[17:27] <effrenatus> So, you hate that name, eh? *sniff*
[17:27] <ECagle> "One weekend a month, my ass!"
[17:27] <Browwiw> I've often wondered what the stormtrooper
retirement package was like
[17:27] <RichRedman> Smith, shut up.
[17:28] <Garen> Oh, hey everyone!
[17:28] <ECagle> Garen, wake up!
[17:28] <BrooklynKnight> So... If i ask ya guys to look over a
Prestige Class i've been tinkering with. Will the answer me yes,
or will i get smacked for being an opportunist?
[17:28] <Browwiw> if you fall asleap or pass out, you get it with
the paint ball gun
[17:28] <Garen> Smacked, methinks.
[17:28] <Browwiw> at least, that's the rule at our new years parties
[17:29] <effrenatus> I'm guessing "smacked" but it's a free country,
at least in principle.
[17:29] <MatSmith> **From inside Warforged TK 497** "Ding, dangit!
Those durn rebels are closing the blast doors!"
[17:29] <RichRedman> SMITH!
[17:29] <RichRedman> Okay, the clock on the cell phone says it's time
to officially begin tonight
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> i'll email it to rich and eric later :-p
[17:29] <Browwiw> oh, wait I actually have a generic d20 system
question
[17:29] <Browwiw> I almost forgot
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> ask away BrooklynKnight
[17:29] <RichRedman> tonight's chat.
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> gag
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> BA
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> ..
[17:29] <BrooklynKnight> Browwiw
[17:30] <ECagle> Beer in hand. Let's begin :)
[17:30] <RichRedman> So, folks, tonight's topic is Modern Magic vol2,
and two of our authors have consented to join us, Eric Cagle
and Mat Smith
[17:30] <Browwiw> what would the weapon stats be for a length of
chain? all I've seen are stats for spiked chains, but not just
good ol' chain
[17:30] * BrooklynKnight bows
[17:30] <ECagle> and you too, Rich.
[17:30] <RichRedman> We put chains in d20 Modern.
[17:31] <Browwiw> really, I didn't find them
[17:31] <MatSmith> My P.O. says this counts as community service.
[17:31] <Browwiw> I even checked the index
[17:31] <BrooklynKnight> Browwiw give me 2 minutes i'll scan the SRD
[17:31] <effrenatus> Let's check this again: Have any of the guests
read Modern Magic v2?
[17:31] <Browwiw> christ, this better not be like finding breastplate
for the first time after owning the 3e books for 2 years
[17:31] <Browwiw> I own MM2
[17:31] <Browwiw> good stuff
[17:31] <effrenatus> Thanks.
[17:32] * BrooklynKnight cant afford any pdf's and is waiting for the
print version.
[17:32] <ECagle> I read it too :)
[17:32] <MatSmith> I've flipped through--just looking at the pictures.
[17:32] <RichRedman> Okay, wise guys
[17:32] <Browwiw> I like the voudon stuff...more additions to my
impending Dark matter game
[17:33] <ECagle> Lemme know how well it works in your game.
[17:33] <Garen> Okay, here's a question:
[17:33] <Browwiw> but, I haven't really read it indepth
[17:33] <effrenatus> Please note: Our audience obviously thinks
we're leading the pack, because they expect more of us.
[17:33] <effrenatus>
www.rpgnow.com/product_reviews_info.php?products_id=2795&reviews_id=4862&
[17:33] <Browwiw> not to be flip, but the art really was good
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> Chain
[17:34] <ECagle> Hey, gimme sec, guys.
[17:34] <RichRedman> Thanks. We'll tell our art director, Stan!
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> Requires Exotic Weapon Prof
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> does 1d6/1d6 damage
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> is bludgeoning
[17:34] * Garen will wait.
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> is large
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> crits on a 20
[17:34] <MatSmith> I agree--the art's quite good.
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> 5lbs
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> and Purchace DC is 5
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> Hope that helps BrooklynKnight
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> GA!
[17:34] <BrooklynKnight> Browwiw
[17:34] <Browwiw> hmmm...maybe that's why I didn't see it in the book,
it was exotic. In the back of my head I assumed it was Improvised
[17:35] <Browwiw> thanks
[17:35] * BrooklynKnight breaks the tab button
[17:35] <BrooklynKnight> improvised weapons "are" exotic.
[17:35] <BrooklynKnight> for the most part
[17:35] <BrooklynKnight> (you need EWP to be P with em, i belive)
[17:35] <Browwiw> really, though, I didn't know breastplate armor was
in the Players Handbook until two years after I bought the book
[17:35] <effrenatus> afk for some h2o. brb
[17:35] <Browwiw> I memorized the entire equipment section but that
[17:36] <ECagle> back!
[17:36] <ECagle> And yes, I liked the art in the book as well.
[17:36] <MatSmith> And that's why Cagle won't wear corduroy.
[17:36] <ECagle> I think when you see both volumes in one bound copy,
it'll look sweet
[17:36] <Browwiw> crap, now I have to run upstairs and get the book...
[17:36] <Browwiw> brb
[17:36] <BrooklynKnight> I hope the print copy will be out by gencon...
[17:36] <Garen> Oh, hell. I'll just ask it.
[17:36] <Garen> TGM seems to have moved from general, broader topics
in their Modern products, to more specific, modular sections in
them. Is this a result of having multiple authors on one book,
or should we expect to continue?
[17:36] <BrooklynKnight> I'd like to get it signed *cough*
[17:37] <ECagle> oooh. DEEEP QUESTION
[17:37] <RichRedman> Wow, I'm not sure you can call two books a
trend - since it's really only the Modern Magic books that are
like that.
[17:37] * Bynw goes back to the idlerpg
[17:38] <RichRedman> I do think it's a consequence of multiple
authors each having their own areas of interest.
[17:38] *** ECagle has quit IRC (User has been mind-ripped.)
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[17:38] <Garen> WB
[17:38] <RichRedman> Ha Ha
[17:38] <ECagle> booted
[17:38] <ECagle> It'll kick me out every half hour
[17:38] <effrenatus> I think the Modern Magic composition will
actually be a rarity.
[17:39] <Garen> If I can be entirely frank, I'm glad about that.
[17:39] <RichRedman> I can't think of any of our up-coming products
with the same structure. Speaking of which, did everyone see
Marc's announcement about our up-coming products?
[17:39] <Garen> Yep! :D
[17:39] <BrooklynKnight> no
[17:39] <MatSmith> Cagle, if you can remember the server name
(chat.psionics.net), you can toss your preferences and restart
with a clean 30-day slate.
[17:39] <Browwiw> yeah, but I was drinking at the time
[17:40] <BrooklynKnight> going to look now
[17:40] <effrenatus> We hope to have the following (and maybe more)
done prior to Gen Con: Slave Drivers is the first in a series of
modern adventures we'll publish over the summer. In the fantasy
category, we have two PDFs building on the legendary weapon rules
written by JD and Rich, and re-published in Unearthed Arcana from
Wizards of the Coast. Artifacts of the Ages: Rings covers magical
jewelry, and Artifacts of the Ages: Legendary Weapons contains a
set of weapons contributed by some of our gaming industry friends,
plus some new optional rules. More information on all these
titles, including a list of author
[17:40] <effrenatus> of authors for Legendary Weapons, will appear
on this site in the next couple weeks.
[17:40] <BrooklynKnight> nice
[17:40] <BrooklynKnight> Mat: you can ignore the 30 day thing. ITs
never gonna bother you after the 30 days are up.
[17:41] <RichRedman> It bothers me every time I log in
[17:41] <BrooklynKnight> Strange
[17:41] <BrooklynKnight> there should be a place to turn it off
[17:41] <Browwiw> I'll definately buy modern adventures
[17:41] <BrooklynKnight> a "dont show this message" check click
or something
[17:41] <MatSmith> Sure, but the getting booted every 30 minutes
can be avoided by making the program think you just got started with
your free preview.
[17:41] <ECagle> gotcha
[17:41] <ECagle> you tech guy, you.
[17:41] <MatSmith> Heh.
[17:42] <ECagle> Legendary Weapons is gonna be cooooool
[17:42] <BrooklynKnight> if you're gonna do that, which is "illegal"
ya might as well take an extra immoral step and just use a
cracked key
[17:42] <BrooklynKnight> or Java
[17:42] *** Bynw has left #TGM
[17:42] <Garen> It'd better be.
[17:42] <Browwiw> or mIRC, like the rest of us peons
[17:42] <BrooklynKnight> thats what they are using
[17:42] <RichRedman> Art, please don't advocate additional
illegal/immoral actions
[17:42] <ECagle> Unless it involves donkeys and midgets.
[17:42] <BrooklynKnight> i'm glad you added "additional" in there
Rich :-p
[17:43] <Garen> Eww
[17:43] <MatSmith> Or midget donkeys.
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[17:43] <Browwiw> donkeys and midgets? OMG, that's how I smuggle
drugs across the border, too!
[17:43] <BrooklynKnight> how bout Donkeys and Ogres
[17:43] <effrenatus> AotA:LW has artifacts from Eric, Mat, Rich, and
me, among many others.
[17:43] <ECagle> GAH! RODNEY
[17:43] <effrenatus> Hello, RT.
[17:43] <RodneyThompson> Cagle....we meet again.
[17:43] <ECagle> thanks, marc..i was gonna ask if we could say who
was workin on it :)
[17:43] <MatSmith> Hey, Rodney.
[17:43] <RodneyThompson> hey Sparky, Mat
[17:44] <ECagle> I'll smack Rodney around at Origins....$10 a pop.
Anyone? Anyone?
[17:44] <effrenatus> There are a bunch of names I can't say because
I don't have contracts or confirmation yet, but the four of us
are in the clear :)
[17:44] <RodneyThompson> Why I oughta....nyuk nyuk nyuk
[17:44] <Garen> woowoowoowoowoo
[17:45] <ECagle> And for all you'se out there....having seen the
items in that book, there's some kick booty stuff.
[17:45] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: we can get some money together at
Gencon and have him thrown into the Klingon Jail...
[17:45] <ECagle> pre-editing/playtesting mind you.
[17:45] <RodneyThompson> Talking about Legendary Weapons?
[17:45] <ECagle> yesm
[17:45] <RodneyThompson> cool
[17:45] <ECagle> Arthur..even *I* am not that heartless.
[17:45] <MatSmith> Yeah. I can't wait to see all the stuff that's
in there--some really interesting Legends.
[17:46] <ECagle> And not just swords and staffs, kiddies...oh no...
[17:46] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: but its for charity!
[17:46] <effrenatus> I always like to see the artists put the weapons
together.
[17:46] <effrenatus> It's seldom what's in my mind, but always cool.
[17:46] <RodneyThompson> My imprisonment is not a philanthropic
opportunity.
[17:46] <MatSmith> Ooh. I forgot about the pictures. I can't wait
for the pictures either.
[17:46] <Garen> Oooooooh.
[17:46] <Garen> Pretty pictures.
[17:47] <MatSmith> Mmmmmm. Pictures.
[17:47] <ECagle> so no one else read MM2? :(
[17:47] <effrenatus> BTW, Rodney's also given us a weapon.
[17:47] <MatSmith> I read a couple of the chapters.
[17:47] <MatSmith> =)
[17:47] <effrenatus> Of course, it's just a lightsaber. He's got a
one-track mind.
[17:47] <RichRedman> Yeah, our fans aren't really readers.
[17:47] <Garen> What are we, then? Skimmers?
[17:47] <effrenatus> Flippers
[17:47] <ECagle> "used by the "Jeh-Die"
[17:47] <RichRedman> Broke, like me?
[17:48] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: the Vong say Jeedie
[17:48] <Browwiw> listen, my house got hit by a tornado, again...I'll
read it when we get the roof all the way back on
[17:48] <ECagle> doh!
[17:48] <RichRedman> I rest my case.
[17:48] <effrenatus> (I actually haven't read Rodney's weapon :)
[17:48] <Garen> I really liked the Hougan illo.
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[17:48] <ECagle> Again?! Who did you make mad?
[17:48] <effrenatus> Hello, Adso.
[17:48] <MatSmith> The roofing company
[17:48] <Browwiw> christ, and the siren just went off again
[17:48] <Adso> Howdy!
[17:48] <ECagle> Garen...cool. That came out almost exactly as I
pictured it.
[17:48] <Garen> It reminded me of Charles Xavier vs. the Shadow King.
[17:49] <RichRedman> Hello, Adso
[17:49] <BrooklynKnight> Browwiw: better get all your books in the
basment and lock yourself in!
[17:49] <BrooklynKnight> Adso......as in RPGA?
[17:49] <RichRedman> No kidding - don't chat with us, get in the shelter
[17:49] <Browwiw> dammit
[17:49] <Adso> Brooklyn> Ayep.
[17:49] <BrooklynKnight> heya
[17:49] <Browwiw> i'm only going to turn the computer off if i see
lightening
[17:49] <ECagle> Now THAT'S dedication.
[17:49] * BrooklynKnight is running 2 games this saturday :-D
[17:49] <Browwiw> eh, it's usually a false alarm
[17:49] <BrooklynKnight> phht
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> Its called a surge protector. I keep it on
inspite of lightning
[17:50] <Browwiw> we had a doosie two years ago, so the get siren
happy over hard rain
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> I've only lost 2 monitors in the last 4
years.
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> thats it.
[17:50] <Adso> Fantastic! I ran a session of Maure Castle this
weekend. It's a fun adventure.
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> Do we have to order adventures from
Dragon in advance? or do we just report them?
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> err
[17:50] <BrooklynKnight> Dungeon
[17:50] <RichRedman> Wow, Erik Mona would be happy to here that.
[17:50] <Adso> Order them in advance.
[17:51] <ECagle> Erik doesn't get happy, he gets even.
[17:51] <Browwiw> better go get my cell phone, though...
[17:51] <BrooklynKnight> 2 weeks, heh, i hope that changes soon -_-
[17:51] <Adso> Eric> He does (BTW this is SRM)
[17:51] <ECagle> AHHHHH
[17:51] <ECagle> INTERLOPER!
[17:51] <RichRedman> Hi, Stephen.
[17:51] <MatSmith> Hey, Stephen
[17:52] <Adso> Heya Rich...Hi Mat...Hi everyone.
[17:52] <ECagle> You still in Cubelandia then?
[17:52] <Adso> No. I'm home.
[17:52] <Browwiw> well, no lightening, thunder, wind, or even rain
[17:52] <Browwiw> eh
[17:52] <ECagle> Locusts.
[17:52] <RichRedman> So Adso, there's a topic of conversation on our
boards related to RPGA support of modern d20. Would you care to
discuss that here, tonight, or not?
[17:52] <Browwiw> I'm getting a little sick of all the crappy weather
[17:52] <BrooklynKnight> 0o0o0
[17:52] <BrooklynKnight> Nice question.
[17:52] <effrenatus> 'Cause you don't have to talk about your work
if you don't want to :)
[17:52] <Adso> I am confortable with it if you are.
[17:52] <BrooklynKnight> Considering what happened at Winter
Fantasy....heh
[17:53] <RichRedman> Well, we've already announced Slave Drivers...
[17:53] <RichRedman> So go for it
[17:53] <Browwiw> can you tell us anything about Slave Drivers, Rich?
[17:54] <Adso> Well if things go well, and the stars align properly,
the Game Mechanics here are going to run a d20 Modern campaign for
the RPGA, which I am thrilled about.
[17:54] <BrooklynKnight> ....w000t!
[17:54] * RodneyThompson arches his fingers.
[17:54] <RodneyThompson> Excellent, Smithers.
[17:54] <Garen> Can we expand on the word "run"?
[17:54] * BrooklynKnight does the homer drool
[17:54] <Adso> It don't think it could be in better hands.
[17:54] <BrooklynKnight> Write, Manage?
[17:54] <Browwiw> neat, I might actually join the RPGA, then
[17:54] <RichRedman> Sure. Slave Drivers is a modern d20 adventure
about a company looking for ways to cut costs by employing the
undead. Their first experiment is with a taxi company, and an
accident reveals their plans to the heroes.
[17:54] <Browwiw> ah
[17:54] * BrooklynKnight blinks
[17:55] <Browwiw> ala, the question from last week
[17:55] <BrooklynKnight> i coulda sworn ive heard this before, or
read it...
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[17:55] <BrooklynKnight> a
[17:55] <RodneyThompson> hence your question last week, eh Rich/
[17:55] <effrenatus> Hello, Gary.
[17:55] <Gary> Howdy all.
[17:55] <ECagle> I thought taxi drivers WERE all undead?....
[17:55] <RichRedman> It's based on an idea that I had back when we
were first designing campaign models for d20 Modern.
[17:55] <Adso> Basically supply the content for the campaign. They
design the adventures and the campaign rules.
[17:55] <BrooklynKnight> When will these adventures be available for
RPGA Sanctioned events?
[17:55] <RichRedman> And yes, Rodney, the playtesting did generate
the question I asked last week.
[17:55] <Browwiw> does TGM have any plans for doing products for
the d20 Future line?
[17:55] <BrooklynKnight> Will it be a Living Campaign?
[17:56] <RodneyThompson> Their cabs often smell like rotting flesh.
[17:56] <Adso> Brooklyn> Yes.
[17:56] <RichRedman> Brow, that depends on how fast it becomes part
of the SRD
[17:56] <BrooklynKnight> So, like Green Regent, very good.
[17:56] <BrooklynKnight> When When When When.
[17:56] <Browwiw> ah, I see
[17:56] <Adso> Brookly> More on the campaign model, but still
"living" in that sense.
[17:56] * BrooklynKnight will have fun running THAT at winter fantasy :-p
[17:56] <Browwiw> well, you do it and I'll buy it. That seems to
be the general equation
[17:57] <RichRedman> Ideally, by the way, we're going to run these
next year at GenCon (which explains why JD has asked about modern
d20 GM experience) and this year at the quarterly gamecon in Bellevue.
[17:57] <ECagle> I saw the galleys for d20 Future....it's veerrry pretty.
[17:57] <effrenatus> Just to be clear, d20 Future isn't necessarily
a line, it's a product for d20 Modern.
[17:57] * RichRedman goes AFK to feed the cats and let the dogs in
[17:57] <Browwiw> well, whatever
[17:57] <Browwiw> I still must have it!
[17:57] <effrenatus>
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/d20m/885970000
[17:57] <Adso> Browwiw> Me too. The Game Mechanics keep on trying
to give me free product, but I insist on buying it. I love to
support the good work these guys do.
[17:58] <RodneyThompson> Eric: Reeeeeeeally? Lucky you. Us poor
authors must always wait.
[17:58] <ECagle> Rodney>only because I walked by Kim Mohan's
desk when he wasn't there ;)
[17:58] <effrenatus> I'm just trying to point out that it's a set of
resources for "modern" adventuring with futuristic elements. There
may be nothing there to "support."
[17:58] <MatSmith> I haven't seen the galleys, but the manuscript was
chock-full of futuristic goodness.
[17:58] <BrooklynKnight> Adso: Stan!'s adventure "Ghost in the Endzone"
is that gonna be available for sanctioned events soon? He wrote most
of it at Winter Fantasy, I playtested it, and ran it for 2 slots...
just wondering what happened to it.
[17:59] <effrenatus> Yeah. It's probably going to be a great resource,
but it's like asking if we'll support "Complete Warrior", sort of.
[17:59] <Browwiw> I just want to do an Aliens: Space Marines campaign
nd finally have it work right
[17:59] <Browwiw> heck, I'd settle for Xenomorph stats that made sense
[17:59] <Adso> Brooklyn> We are going to run it again at Gen Con.
After Gen Con it'll see release into the ordering system. It's a fun,
fun, fun, adventure.
[17:59] <RodneyThompson> Or, more accurately, like asking if you'll
support Urban Arcanaa
[18:00] <MatSmith> Like with Modern Magic I & II
[18:00] <BrooklynKnight> Asdo: yea i know. I was the russian gunslinger
chick :-p
[18:00] <RodneyThompson> (Again, apologies on the typos, laptop
keyboard repeats letters)
[18:00] <BrooklynKnight> Tho i wont be gming 7 slots, ill have to
make time to GM that specific adventure at Gencon.
[18:00] <ECagle> How many modern adventures total at GenCon
[18:01] <ECagle> that was meant to be a question..sorry.
[18:01] <BrooklynKnight> I prolly wont get points for it, but thats ok.
[18:01] <Browwiw> it's okay, this time, Rodney. Do it again next chat
and we make you run a realistic GURPS game
[18:01] <effrenatus> GURPS: Office Space.
[18:01] <Adso> Brooklyn> Fantastic. Make sure to get in touch with
August Hahn soon. I know he's already got most of Indy filled.
[18:01] <ECagle> Hey now...proud owner of 40 GURPS books here.
[18:01] <ECagle> Number of games run?: 0!
[18:01] <Browwiw> heh
[18:01] <Browwiw> they do have cool cover art, though
[18:02] <BrooklynKnight> Adso: i sent him an email from the RPGA site,
I originally planned to run 7 games. He .never. got back to me.
Nobody did.
[18:02] <BrooklynKnight> At Winter Fantasy, Stan and I were the only
two modern GM's...
[18:02] <ECagle> Marc...Benni says "hulloo."
[18:02] <RichRedman> back
[18:02] <effrenatus> Another AotA:LW author is lurking here. Gary,
who wrote some additional material for Thieves' Quarter, has also
submitted a weapon.
[18:02] <BrooklynKnight> so, i dont think it will be a problem :-p
[18:02] <RichRedman> Hi Benni
[18:02] <ECagle> She said nothin to you, Redman!
[18:02] <effrenatus> Eric> Tell her I want to go bowling. :)
[18:03] <ECagle> mmmm bowling.
[18:03] <ECagle> GURPS Bowling.
[18:03] <RichRedman> Fine, then I won't hug her next time I see her
[18:03] <MatSmith> And he never touched cheese again.
[18:03] <RichRedman> Here we go again.
[18:03] <Adso> E-mail me about that. I'll see what's up. I don't want
to hijack this chat with RPGA stuff.
[18:03] <MatSmith> Poor Rich.
[18:03] <ECagle> Actually she said it was cool seein you the other
day...it had been a LONG time.
[18:03] <ECagle> SRM: it's all good.
[18:04] <ECagle> I know that people are hankering to hear about
Modern and RPGA.
[18:04] <Gary> Yes, that is me. A lurker.
[18:04] <effrenatus> So, since Stan!'s not here, I'll do a little
market research on our art:
[18:04] * RodneyThompson pushes Gary into the limelight.
[18:04] <RichRedman> Well, I know that ways to get more products
involved with the RPGA is a topic of discussion on our boards.
[18:04] <effrenatus> Which piece of art from Modern Magic (either
volume) is your favorite?
[18:04] <Gary> Hey, quit shovin'.
[18:05] <Browwiw> if there was a Modern RPGA game, I would definately
twist my friends' arms until they played it
[18:05] <ECagle> Arcane SpecOp is awesome.
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[18:05] <BrooklynKnight> hi Roudi
[18:05] <effrenatus> Welcome, Roudi
[18:05] <Roudi> 'lo. WHat'd I miss?
[18:05] <BrooklynKnight> Everyone, welcome one of Brood d20's
development team, and friend of mine Roudi.
[18:06] <Roudi> Thanks, BK.
[18:06] <RodneyThompson> Marc: Easy one. Pete Schlough's Arcane
SpecOp, easily.
[18:06] <MatSmith> I like the Arcane SpecOp too. And the Pet
Rock-summoned Earth Elemental
[18:06] <Garen> Arcane SpecOp from vol 1, Hougan from Vol 2.
[18:06] <BrooklynKnight> Roudi: you missed an announcement that TGM
will be running an RPGA d20modern campaign
[18:06] <effrenatus> They are good pieces. :)
[18:06] <Roudi> At GenCOn?
[18:06] <ECagle> And, as Garen said....I like how the Hougan turned out
[18:06] <BrooklynKnight> it will start there i think.
[18:06] <BrooklynKnight> but, in general
[18:06] <BrooklynKnight> similar to a living campaign
[18:06] <Adso> Rich> I am really excited about the init cards with
those finally hitting adventures. Keeping up has been the hard part
lately. My bosses keep putting extra work on my desk.
[18:06] <Roudi> I'm impressed.
[18:06] <ECagle> EVeryone who joins gets a free Glock.
[18:07] <Roudi> Also, congrats, gents, on the releave of Modern
Magic Volume 2
[18:07] <MatSmith> Cool
[18:07] <effrenatus> If you need some contract help, Adso, let me know :)
[18:07] <effrenatus> Thanks, Roudi.
[18:07] <BrooklynKnight> Init cards in official adventures? finally!
[18:07] <RichRedman> I think the credit for that goes to Marc, but
thanks.
[18:07] <Roudi> *release, ahem
[18:07] <effrenatus> Well, it was a relief to get it out.
[18:07] <BrooklynKnight> Adso: i need ya're email addy and what ya
want me to say
[18:07] <RichRedman> Thanks Roudi
[18:07] <ECagle> Have you read it yet Roudi?
[18:07] *** effrenatus sets mode: +o ECagle
[18:08] <Roudi> I've been intrigued by the living campign concept,
but they were enver in settings I wanted to play in, save Star Wars.
[18:08] *** ECagle has quit IRC (User has been mind-ripped.)
[18:08] <effrenatus> Another question: How do you feel about the
power levels of the alternate magic rules in Modern Magic?
[18:08] <Roudi> Not yet, ECagle, I'm trying to keep myself focused
on NPC generation four our latest product.
[18:08] <effrenatus> I need to stop op-ing him.
[18:08] <Adso> I am always looking for good contractors. Right now
budgeting for them becomes the hard part.
[18:08] <MatSmith> See what you did, Marc?
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[18:08] <Roudi> Heh.
[18:08] *** effrenatus sets mode: +o ECagle
[18:08] <ECagle> I MEANT to do that.....
[18:08] <RodneyThompson> He always vanishes when you do.
[18:08] <ECagle> yeah.
[18:08] <BrooklynKnight> adso: I work real cheep. give me a ring! :-D
[18:08] <Roudi> What you missed -->Not yet, ECagle, I'm trying to
keep myself focused on NPC generation four our latest product.
[18:08] * effrenatus waits for Cagle to drop again now that he's been op'd.
[18:08] <Adso> you can email me at srm (at) wizards.com
[18:09] <BrooklynKnight> srm or what srm stands for?
[18:09] <Adso> Stephen Radney-MacFarland
[18:09] <ECagle> Super Radney Man.
[18:09] <BrooklynKnight> so, the latter
[18:09] <Adso> LOL. Only my wife calls me that ;)
[18:09] <BrooklynKnight> no space, or underscore?
[18:09] <RodneyThompson> Rich, Eric, Mat> I dunno who is
responsible, but kudos on the mundane magic chapter.
[18:09] <Roudi> My spelling is atrocious today... I hope it's not
bleedingi nto my work...
[18:10] <ECagle> Ritual magic, ya mean?
[18:10] <RodneyThompson> Verra verra nice.
[18:10] <Adso> no space, no underscore.
[18:10] <RichRedman> That was mostly me, so thanks.
[18:10] <RodneyThompson> Ritual magic, talismans, etc.
[18:10] <ECagle> ohhhhh! yeah
[18:10] <RodneyThompson> It was a nice change from D&D In The City
magic.
[18:10] <ECagle> Every game, I want a lucky rabbits foot.
[18:11] <effrenatus> Yeah. It's definitely an aspect of modern
superstition that wasn't modeled in d20 Modern.
[18:11] <RichRedman> And now you know what it does
[18:11] <ECagle> or, a whole rabbit.
[18:11] <MatSmith> Every game, I want a d20 that doesn't roll for crap.
[18:11] <Roudi> Good luck then, Mat. Let me know when you find one.
[18:11] <RichRedman> WIth that gun that Bishop carries, why do you care?
[18:11] <effrenatus> I think it's you, Mat. You curse dice you touch.
[18:11] <ECagle> I plan on running a low-magic game, using Mat's side
effects stuff....
[18:11] <Browwiw> yes, the sections on charms was terrific. I was
actually flipping through my alchemy and magic textbooks while
looking at those
[18:11] <Adso> Mat> Chessex makes cheater dice...no 1's ;)
[18:12] <Gary> I have some of those.
[18:12] <MatSmith> It's true. Hey, Rich, with as much damage as
Bishop's gun does, are you saying that I don't actually have to
*Hit* with it?
[18:12] <effrenatus> We're going to be publishing a freebie from
Mat soon, too. More modern magic stuff.
[18:12] <Adso> Of course they are not legal in RPGA-sanctioned
sessions ;)
[18:12] <ECagle> Marc> good thing someone we know isn't playing
in our Wednesday game...he'd have a set of those ;)
[18:12] <Browwiw> ok, I gotta know: Bishop's gun?
[18:13] <Roudi> Yeah, ditto.
[18:13] <effrenatus> :)
[18:13] * RodneyThompson is lost amidst Seattle gamer babble.
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[18:13] <RichRedman> Actually, since you let me write the campaign
rules and I get to say what books are allowed, then I can make
legal in RPGA-sanctioned sessions. So nya.
[18:13] <effrenatus> JD!
[18:13] <Gary> Yes, but is it the *real* JD?
[18:13] <RodneyThompson> Ah, el presidente magnifico finally decides
to join us.
[18:13] <effrenatus> Rodney, I'd suggest you move out here so you
can get it, but the job market sucks.
[18:13] <ECagle> Mister....Wiker...
[18:13] <Roudi> Would the real JD please stand up?
[18:13] <Adso> Rich> Ah...well...ah, we'll have to talk about
that. ;)
[18:13] <RichRedman> He's next to the real Slim Shady
[18:14] <RodneyThompson> Marc: It's looking good that I will next May.
[18:14] <MatSmith> Bishop's Gun: +1 Flaming, Frost, Acid, Lightning
Glock 17 of Distance and Speed.
[18:14] <Garen> Neither of whom are here.
[18:14] <Adso> Heya JD.
[18:14] <ECagle> mmmmm cooked pig.
[18:14] <Roudi> ...!
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[18:14] <effrenatus> Rodney> Just don't take a job that I could
work. :)
[18:14] <ECagle> (sorry, dinner just arrived)
[18:14] <Browwiw> holy crap...what minor god did he have to slay to
get that?
[18:14] <Browwiw> howdy, JD
[18:14] <effrenatus> Welcome, Z. No Stan! tonight.
[18:14] <Roudi> That's not a glock... that's a WHABAMSHILOCK!
[18:14] <RichRedman> Thus the need for rules on magic item creation.
[18:14] <Zouron> hey eff no problem I gave him enough heat last
week hehe
[18:14] <Garen> I'm daft. Hey, JD.
[18:15] <Adso> Effrenatus> Marc?
[18:15] <RodneyThompson> Unless you want to work at Electronics Boutique
[18:15] <RichRedman> Hey Z!
[18:15] <Zouron> Hey Rich!
[18:15] <Roudi> Heh... my boss, Ralts, crashed an NPC generator
program trying to apply magical properties to modern weapons.
[18:15] <effrenatus> Adso> Did I miss a question?
[18:15] <MatSmith> I started comissioning a magic gun and discovered
that once you're rolling 1d6 for a Wealth scroe loss, you might as
well go all the way with a 2d6 roll and a +10 equivalent weapon.
[18:15] <Browwiw> A friend of mine used to work at EB...he now works
at Triple A
[18:15] <Adso> No, I was just confirming who you were. Now things are
much clearer...No work for you! ;)
[18:15] <MatSmith> I rolled a 3.
[18:16] <Roudi> Damn.
[18:16] <ECagle> You suck. :)
[18:16] <effrenatus> Oh, my name was reset!
[18:16] *** effrenatus is now known as effrenatus[TGM_Marc]
[18:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> How long has that been wrong?
[18:16] <RodneyThompson> All night.
[18:16] <Roudi> Since I joined, at least...
[18:16] <Gary> Forever and a day.
[18:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Since I got booted earlier, I'd guess.
[18:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Sorry.
[18:16] <Garen> Forever and ever!
[18:16] <RichRedman> Amen
[18:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Luckily, I can edit the logs :)
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[18:16] <ECagle> It should say "Commodore"
[18:16] <MatSmith> Hey! It cost me *5* Wealth total.
[18:17] <RichRedman> Hello, Napftor
[18:17] <Napftor> greetings
[18:17] <Zouron> eff> sure you are sorry :-) but does it change
anything no, you will forget next time as well :-)
[18:17] <Browwiw> howdy, Nap
[18:17] <Roudi> Now, Mat, the question is... what happens when you
run out of bullets?
[18:17] * Napftor nods to Browwiw
[18:17] <MatSmith> You clean up the bodies.
[18:17] <Roudi> Nice answer :)
[18:17] <RichRedman> And accurate
[18:17] <MatSmith> =)
[18:17] <BrooklynKnight> Adso: email sent.
[18:18] <Browwiw> freakin' siren again...nothing's happened since
the first one
[18:18] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> So, we were intermittently talking
about Modern Magic :)
[18:18] <Browwiw> this better be an air strike
[18:18] <ECagle> hehehe
[18:18] <Garen> Kinda sorta. :P
[18:18] <Zouron> eff> better then MM1 :-)
[18:18] <Browwiw> skies aren't even yellow
[18:18] <Roudi> And Bishop's gun. Which, contrary to my prior
impression, is not innuendo
[18:18] <MatSmith> Bishop uses his Double Tap feat (to get 7d6 per
attack), so he usually ends up reloading once per firefight.
[18:18] <RichRedman> We also talked about Modern adventures, so let
me ask this: Are modern adventures harder to write than fantasy?
[18:18] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Another question for the masses: What
modern magic belief system can be tastefully covered, but has not
been?
[18:18] <Adso> Brooklyn>Great. I am at home now, but I will take
care of it first thing in the morning.
[18:18] <Roudi> Rich, most definitely no.
[18:18] <BrooklynKnight> wait Rich: Since TGM is running/managing the
d20modern rpga games...will MPC and MM be allowed?
[18:18] <RodneyThompson> Rhetorical question, or conversation-starter,
Rich/
[18:18] <RodneyThompson> ?
[18:19] <RichRedman> Unless SRM talks me out of it.
[18:19] <BrooklynKnight> Adso: No rush, its apparently too late anyway.
I cant run 7 sessions anymore :-p
[18:19] <BrooklynKnight> Rich and MAM too?
[18:19] *** effrenatus[TGM_Marc] sets mode: +o JDWiker
[18:19] <Roudi> Modern adventures, I find, are easier to craft because,
unlike a fantasy universe, most of the basic precepts are
second-nature to the players.
[18:19] <Browwiw> well, I was supposed to right one as a freebie for
you guys...but my house keeps getting hit bny goddam tornadoes
[18:19] <Adso> I try not to talk anybody out of anything. It keeps
me somewhat sane.
[18:19] <RichRedman> No, I meant that as a conversation starter.
Several people on the WotC boards have complained that modern
adventures are harder to write, and are using that to argue that
more non-FX adventures need to be written.
[18:19] <BrooklynKnight> wait...
[18:19] <BrooklynKnight> modern adventures are HARD?!
[18:20] <BrooklynKnight> to write?!
[18:20] <BrooklynKnight> WHA?!
[18:20] <BrooklynKnight> Just look outside your window or in any
newspaper for inspiration.
[18:20] <Roudi> Well... writing no-FX adventures that are
INTERESTING can get difficult.
[18:20] <Garen> Art really likes his Enter key.
[18:20] <Roudi> I mean, FX is a cheap and easy way to create a
mysterious element,
[18:20] <Zouron> Rich> to a certain degree, to me as an experienced
fantasy dm I am not use to putting it in modern terms and making it
seem real, which means I often have problem coming up with
interesting adventures for mdoern characters. But it is simply
something you have to get use to.
[18:20] <BrooklynKnight> I do my best NOT to use FX.
[18:20] <RodneyThompson> I think they .4can.1 be harder to write.
Since everyone is so familiar with the real world, mistakes are more
obvious and so you must be more meticulous and logical while designing.
[18:21] <RichRedman> I think they're trying to write adventures in
genres with which they're not familiar, like military or espionage,
and that makes them harder.
[18:21] <BrooklynKnight> The only supernatural thing in my game I
had... was undead.
[18:21] <BrooklynKnight> And.......the portals to forgotten realms
[18:21] <BrooklynKnight> but that was science.
[18:21] <Roudi> Trying to write non-FX, without going into the kinds
of things the players already have seen or done in their own lives,
can be presing.
[18:21] <ECagle> I saw a great thing in the news that other day for
an adventure. A blackhawk helicopter went BOOP and disappeared
during a routine flight over North Carolina.
[18:21] <Browwiw> just watch a lot of X-Files, Sopranos, the Shield,
CSI, and the like...something will fall out of your head for
game night
[18:21] <RichRedman> A crashhawk crashed? That's not surprising.
[18:21] <MatSmith> The BOOP part is under investigation.
[18:21] <ECagle> no..not crashed. Disappeared.
[18:21] <BrooklynKnight> with crew?
[18:21] <ECagle> yup.
[18:22] <BrooklynKnight> still missing?
[18:22] <RichRedman> When it disappears off radar, that means it
crashed.
[18:22] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Sci-Fi Tech and Magic are both just
FX, BK :)
[18:22] <ECagle> Hey, now it's MY adventure idea...let me live my
little lie ;)
[18:22] <Roudi> Indeed!
[18:22] <RodneyThompson> Well, are we confusing the difference
between coming up with adventure hooks and writing full adventures?
I think so...
[18:22] <RichRedman> Brow, I agree those are good sources
[18:22] <BrooklynKnight> Bah, technology is not fx :-p
[18:22] <Roudi> Perhaps, Rodney... which were you thinking?
[18:22] <RichRedman> Good point Rodney
[18:22] <BrooklynKnight> Though, the halflings really thought
lighters were funny.
[18:22] <RodneyThompson> I disagree, Brooklyn.
[18:22] <Zouron> Rich> Yes that is the problem writing adventures
to a setting they are not experienced with, it is a different mind
set and thus the problem.
[18:23] <RodneyThompson> I was thinking full adventures.
[18:23] <Adso> I find them harder because you can't limit the reality
like you can in a fantasy and science fiction. The modern world is
one of possibilities...and possibilities we know really well.
[18:23] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I'd quote the "sufficiently advanced
technology" line, but I'd get it wrong.
[18:23] <BrooklynKnight> Bah
[18:23] <Adso> Magic and far flung technology can be really convenient
excuses in those genres. Modern.2026unless you have magic in your
modern makes the writers work a little harder.
[18:23] <Roudi> AH, well... honestly I have less experience there than
I do with hooks. But let's go there, then...
[18:23] <BrooklynKnight> Whenever my players did something that i
needed to limit
[18:23] <BrooklynKnight> I had Samuel L Jackson fly in on a helicopter
[18:23] <RichRedman> Marc, can you see why I want the transcript from
last week and this one?
[18:23] <BrooklynKnight> and yell at them.
[18:23] <Napftor> Would Samuel L be your Elminster, then, BK?
[18:24] <Browwiw> aliright, tornado between Nebo and Dixon...12 miles
away
[18:24] <BrooklynKnight> Sorta...
[18:24] <RodneyThompson> One of the brilliant aspects of d20 Modern
is that FX can be magic, psi, tech, or whatever.
[18:24] <Browwiw> gotta close windows..see ya, folks
[18:24] <MatSmith> So, do most people prefer their Modern adventures
with or without FX?
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[18:24] <RodneyThompson> It means flexibility which is essential.
[18:24] <RichRedman> Be safe Brow
[18:24] <BrooklynKnight> He was a Mix of the guy from Pulp Fiction,
Mace Windu, and the guy from XXX
[18:24] <RichRedman> Good question, Mat
[18:24] <MatSmith> (Like Mounds vs Almond Joy)
[18:24] <Roudi> Mat, I prefer the "possibility" of FX. A mystery that
may or may not be supernatural.
[18:24] <Gary> Mat > Depends on the FX.
[18:24] <Garen> BK, just use his character from Basic.
[18:24] <Zouron> Mat> I prefere without, adding FX is easier then
removing
[18:24] <BrooklynKnight> honestly, I could go either way. But i want
it to be a clear thing from the start
[18:25] <BrooklynKnight> latly i've wanted non fx
[18:25] <Roudi> It's the kind of thing that always hooked one into
the early X-Files episodes. Was it supernatural? Was it aliens?
Was it a monster? Was it something beyond?
[18:25] <BrooklynKnight> I want to play in a true blue modern world :-p
[18:25] <Roudi> Or was it just swampo gas and a weather balloon?
[18:25] <RichRedman> There's definitely a school of player/GM that
dislikes "D&D in the modern world," and they tend to see ANY FX as
being that.
[18:25] <Roudi> Well, some players/GMs treat FX just like that...
[18:25] <BrooklynKnight> I would like to play in one really good non
fx game before i play one that has it
[18:26] <ECagle> Getting back on topic, that's part of the reason why
we came up with the lesser incantations/ritual magic rules in MM1.
[18:26] <BrooklynKnight> And If I do play an FX game, i prefer psionics,
not magic.
[18:26] <RodneyThompson> Rich: to be fair, publishers are sometimes
guilty of perpetuating that belief.
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[18:26] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Hello.
[18:26] <BrooklynKnight> And in fantasy games, i prefer magic over
psioincs
[18:26] <ECagle> Adding magic to a game without "Fireball-round 1,
Lightning Bolt--Round 2."
[18:26] <Roudi> That was one of the things I liked about Mage: The
Ascension from White Wolf. A D&D wizard would never survive in
the Mage world, casting spells as easily as breathing. THe Paradox
would have lsaughtered him.
[18:26] <RichRedman> For the record, one of our design guidelines for
our modern adventures is to make them as completely playable
without FX as with.
[18:26] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Psionics is just Magic with a
different coat of paint :)
[18:26] <MatSmith> Hmm. So most of you guys are more into a realistic
modern adventure that *may* get a little weird, but preferably in a
way that could be explained on the Discovery Channel or in Popular
Mechanics.
[18:27] <Zouron> Rich> well I run Urban Arcana which is defiantely
a bit D&D in modern world, and I still want to see FX-less
adventures, mostly because FX-les teaches me better how to think in
the modern adventure genre then FX... for me FX tend to distract me
[18:27] <BrooklynKnight> Not to me.
[18:27] <Garen> And maybe diesel fuel...
[18:27] <Roudi> eff... some of us are trying to shake that image :)
[18:27] <BrooklynKnight> to me psioincs is the next step in evolution.
[18:27] <BrooklynKnight> Its not magic.
[18:27] <Adso> Marc> Yeah but the color happens to be Mauve ;)
[18:27] <BrooklynKnight> Psioincs is science.
[18:27] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Mutant powers are just FX. It's all
just FX! :)
[18:27] <RodneyThompson> I wouldn't mind FX if suggestions were made
on how to explain the FX in adventures/products without the
supernatural were given.
[18:27] <Roudi> BK, not the XPH it isn't. It's treated so much like
magic now, it's almost disgusting.
[18:28] <RichRedman> For newcomers (and lurkers), this discussion
started when I asked: Are modern adventures harder to write than
fantasy? Feel free to chime in.
[18:28] <ECagle> Roudi....but how ELSE would it be done?!
[18:28] <RodneyThompson> Mat: Yes to your last statement.
[18:28] <BrooklynKnight> Roudi: For D&D It should be.
[18:28] <Roudi> I actually was working on an alternate system based
mainly on reported psychic phenomenon.
[18:28] <RodneyThompson> Though Dark*Matter is yummy.
[18:28] <Roudi> It was for a modern setting
[18:28] <BrooklynKnight> as a DM i dont want psionics in my fantasy
game.
[18:28] <MatSmith> I definitely think that good modern adventures
sans-FX would be harder to write.
[18:28] <Roudi> It's kind of on the backburner, like many porjects
nowadays
[18:29] <ECagle> More Martial Arts :)
[18:29] <BrooklynKnight> as a DM of a modern game. If my players
want FX, i'll give them psi, not mag
[18:29] <RichRedman> I smell a column coming on...
[18:29] <Roudi> I do agree, Mat... but they can also be damn fun
that way.
[18:29] <RodneyThompson> or just more ninjas, Eric
[18:29] <Garen> No, modern adventures are not harder to write than
fantasy.
[18:29] <BrooklynKnight> Mat: thats because magic is the easy way out.
[18:29] <ECagle> Rich...I'm converting Turnbuckle Jones for your
modern game :)
[18:29] <MatSmith> And before this discussion was the chat topic of
Modern Magic Vol. II
[18:29] <Roudi> Heh
[18:29] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> OK, name a great recent film set in
the contemporary that contains no FX. I'm sure there are plenty.
[18:29] <Roudi> See what it's caused?
[18:29] <BrooklynKnight> Its harder to find a mundane explination,
or scientific one, then it is to simply say "it was magic" or
"it was god"
[18:29] <Garen> I do, however, think that people find it easier to
fall back on the cliché when it comes to Modern games.
[18:30] <BrooklynKnight> Van Helsing :-p
[18:30] <BrooklynKnight> No FX there :-;
[18:30] <BrooklynKnight> heheh
[18:30] <ECagle> I have an adventure idea that will be COMPLETELY
FX free...maybe for Winter Fantasy (Adso?)
[18:30] <RodneyThompson> Ugh
[18:30] * Roudi snorts
[18:30] <BrooklynKnight> just science and religion *cough*
[18:30] <MatSmith> Definitely. Magic allows you to do a lot of things
that would take a phenomenally complicated and unlikely amount of
effort to otherwise explain.
[18:30] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> (BTW, I probably will not have seen it.
Haven't been to many films lately)
[18:30] <Roudi> d20 Adventures... now FX free!
[18:30] <Zouron> Brook> harder to find scientific explanations is
for me at least, due to the fact I am not use to making up science
babble, maybe I haven't watched enough star trek or something heh.
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> Z: just watch a few epsiodes of startrek
[18:31] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Right. In Star Trek, all particles
are just FX. :)
[18:31] <Roudi> LOL
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> lol
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> hehe
[18:31] <Roudi> ALL FRIGGEN PARTICLES... even subatomic...
[18:31] <RodneyThompson> Tachyon emitters, ho!
[18:31] <Adso> Eric> I would love to talk about that. Sounds
interesting.
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> I have the perfet song for this
[18:31] <Napftor> So, being the newbie to Modern that I am, how many
GMs use FX in their games...the majority?
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> .bounce the electron of the deflector dish
[18:31] <RichRedman> I do
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> Voltair - USS Make Shit Up
[18:31] <BrooklynKnight> :-p
[18:31] <Zouron> Brook> I watch star trek every now and then, but
not very regularly, therefore I forget how they make up science
babble.
[18:31] <ECagle> Rich replaces "FX" with "Nazis"
[18:31] <Garen> Unfortunately, in Modern games, you have three main
genres when avoiding FX: military, espionage, and Batman.
[18:31] <MatSmith> I would, if I had a chance to get my campaign off
the ground.
[18:32] <RodneyThompson> We use no FX in our d20 Future game.....but
that's unfair to the discussion
[18:32] <Roudi> Garen, add "gritty" to that list./
[18:32] <Zouron> Nap> I use FX, currently hwoever it has been
more as plot device.
[18:32] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> post apoc, Rodney?
[18:32] <Garen> I already said Batman.
[18:32] <MatSmith> Cagle> That's Undead Nazis from Outer Space
[18:32] <RodneyThompson> Space Western, Marc.
[18:32] <RichRedman> How would you know Eric? You haven't played in
my campaign. And Smith is exaggerating...agin
[18:32] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> How can you be in space with no FX? :)
[18:32] <ECagle> I've heard...rumors.
[18:32] <BrooklynKnight> Technology should not be FX.
[18:32] <MatSmith> True. Sometimes they're Undead Nazis from *Inner*
Space.
[18:32] <BrooklynKnight> thats my opinion.
[18:32] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> But it is :)
[18:32] <RichRedman> I disagree, Garen. You certainly left our crime
and mystery.
[18:33] <RodneyThompson> Eh, when FX becomes normal tech...
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> Is it?
[18:33] <Roudi> BK... ADVANCED tech can be FX... laser weapons,
nanotech, cyberware, etc.
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: Is technology FX in d20future?
[18:33] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Speculative tech is FX, IMO :)
[18:33] <Garen> Fair enough, Rich.
[18:33] <Roudi> Precisely, eff
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> can i ask that even?
[18:33] <ECagle> Err...
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> "can be"
[18:33] <ECagle> I didn't write it
[18:33] <MatSmith> Das Uber Toten Mole Men
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> not "is"
[18:33] <RodneyThompson> FX is stuff above and beyond contemporary
explanation. in a future setting, technology is normal.
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> I dont think it should be
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> but of course
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> i'm not writing the book.
[18:33] <ECagle> But from what I read, it depends on how you use it.
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> Look at Jake 2.0
[18:33] <Garen> But it really seems like adventures are usually
"shoot it," "sneak past it," or "figure out its secrets."
[18:33] <Napftor> Depends on the campaign you're running?
[18:33] <BrooklynKnight> thats not FX, thats nanotech, but its
sceince.
[18:34] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I don't know what's in d20 Future.
I'm telling you how I see things.
[18:34] <Roudi> Garen, how about investigating?
[18:34] <BrooklynKnight> Marc: we can disagree :-p
[18:34] <RichRedman> Garen, that pretty much sums up every RPG ever.
[18:34] <ECagle> Yeah the "run away from it" games really suck.
[18:34] <Roudi> Making deliveries? Dealing with family? Random
encounters?
[18:34] <Garen> Then there's "figure out A's secrets so you can
sneak past B and shoot C."
[18:34] <BrooklynKnight> D20modern: Vice City!
[18:34] <Garen> Yes, Rich, it is.
[18:34] <BrooklynKnight> i mean
[18:34] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> There is no difference between a
fireball spell, a psionic fireball power, and a futuristic
implant which allows someone to generate a fireball.
[18:34] <BrooklynKnight> D20Retro: Vice City
[18:34] <BrooklynKnight> :-p
[18:34] <RodneyThompson> I came up with a list that distilled all
adventures down to one-sentence axioms...let me dig it up
[18:35] <MatSmith> I think I may be spilling a little of what's
inside d20 Future in the July edition of my In the Works article at
wizards.com/dnd.
[18:35] <ECagle> You keep your axioms on your side of the Continental
Divide, Mister. :)
[18:35] <BrooklynKnight> Eff: Generating a fireball would no longer
be "tech"
[18:35] <Garen> Remember, I think that Modern adventures should be
just as easy as Fantasy.
[18:35] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Why not? You can't generate heat with
technology?
[18:35] <RodneyThompson> Mat: When does that go online/
[18:35] <BrooklynKnight> spitting gas that mixes with o2 and lights
aflame is not tech
[18:35] <BrooklynKnight> Sure.
[18:35] <BrooklynKnight> But the way you said it..
[18:35] <Roudi> Explosive heat, for that matter...
[18:35] <BrooklynKnight> sounds like they plug something in their
brain, and just create it from thin air.
[18:35] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Zero point energy. Speculative tech.
[18:36] <MatSmith> Rodney> I think my articles go up the second
Sunday in the month.
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[18:36] <BrooklynKnight> At that point the line blurs
[18:36] <RodneyThompson> Curses...too long.
[18:36] <ECagle> well a spell that deals 3d6 points of fire damage
and a gun that does the same....what's the difference?
[18:36] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] is on some weird crusade to define FX for
the entire industry.
[18:36] <RichRedman> Man, I had a whole list of discussion topics,
and look at this.
[18:36] <RichRedman> Rodney, could you mail that list to me?
[18:36] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Am I messing up your Tuesday, Rich? :)
[18:36] <Zouron> eff> that can be said about a lot of things,
usually fx usually have indefiante use or limited charges that
cannot be regenerated, normal items such as weapon have ammo that
can be changed. The ammo is known and priced... usually that is the
difference.. so the psionics and the fireball come in the two first,
will the fireball generator, which a plasma cell charging it ends
in the last (or it might just be a LAW rocket)
[18:36] <MatSmith> Chees: Scary or Not?
[18:36] <BrooklynKnight> I'm sorry Rich... we'll be quiet and let
you get to your list.
[18:36] <RodneyThompson> Yeah, I'm searching for it.
[18:36] <RichRedman> Heck no! This is exactly the kind of thing I want!
[18:37] <Napftor> chaos?
[18:37] <MatSmith> *Cheese
[18:37] <RichRedman> We'd have that whether I had a list or not
[18:37] <BrooklynKnight> I like cheeze
[18:37] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> There is no difference between a wand
of lightning bolts and a throw-away lightning gun.
[18:37] <ECagle> Except for the recycling fee :)
[18:37] <BrooklynKnight> oh, by the way. I have an update on that
dinner, if you're intrested. I dont wanna bother you with it
every week :-p
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[18:38] <ECagle> Mat...are you going to Gencon?
[18:38] <Browwiw> I'm getting a little upset with these false alarms
[18:38] <MatSmith> And the 5¢ deposit in Michigan and Wyoming.
[18:38] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Glad you're safe, B.
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[18:38] <RichRedman> What Marc said, Brow
[18:38] <Browwiw> oh well, McClean County and Sacramento are gonna
get it
[18:38] <Browwiw> thanks
[18:38] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> What state are you in, B?
[18:38] <MatSmith> Cagle> I'm planning on going to GenCon whether
I wrangle a WotC pass or not. Yes.
[18:38] <Browwiw> Kentucky
[18:38] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I have family in Indianapolis, and I
know it's been harsh there.
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[18:39] <Browwiw> this will be the second twister in three days, if
it happens
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[18:39] <Browwiw> as it is, I think it will be just a bad storm
[18:39] <ECagle> You all anger me. I leave. I come back, for I am
forgiving.
[18:39] <Zouron> eff> no there isn't but usually guns are not
throw away.
[18:39] <Garen> [21:39] <MatSmith> Cagle> I'm planning on
going to GenCon whether I wrangle a WotC pass or not. Yes.
[18:39] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] dispells the blink spell someone cast on
ECagle.
[18:39] <Browwiw> but, McClean County is gonna get pounded
[18:39] <ECagle> Cool.
[18:39] <Gary> Hey, Eric, stay a while.
[18:39] * RodneyThompson goes to hunt adventure axiom list.
[18:39] <BrooklynKnight> Mat: will you be going to the Ennies
award ceremony?
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[18:39] <Browwiw> I've got my boots on, and my flashlight with me,
though
[18:39] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Heck, Mat might be getting an award! :)
[18:40] <ECagle> "hunting adventure axiom list" means "Get pants"
[18:40] <MatSmith> Brooklyn> I have no idea. Should I be?
[18:40] <MatSmith> Huh?
[18:40] <Browwiw> oh, dear sweet maglite, you're my torch and 1d6
club, all in one lovely package
[18:40] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> The Modern Magic PDFs are eligible
for ENnie consideration.
[18:40] <BrooklynKnight> did you submit them yet?
[18:40] <ECagle> oooh. I want an Ennie.
[18:40] <MatSmith> Neat-o.
[18:40] <ECagle> So I can test it's durability ;)
[18:40] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Deadline is the 10th.
[18:40] <MatSmith> Me too.
[18:41] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: Wizards of the Coast is eligible...
You can submit any of the d20modern print products
[18:41] <MatSmith> Cagle> We can text it againt the Fist of
Emirikol.
[18:41] <BrooklynKnight> WOTC simply has to give 6 free copies
to the judges
[18:41] <Browwiw> if it turns out Eric lip-synced his PDFs, will he
have to give his Ennie back?
[18:41] <Zouron> eff> thieves quarter should defiantely get an
ENnie if it were up to me :-)
[18:41] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Thanks, Z
[18:41] <MatSmith> Thieves Quarter--yes.
[18:41] <Adso> I am guessing the fist will win. That's a pretty
sturdy die.
[18:41] <ECagle> I blame Milly...or is that Vanilly?
[18:41] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> We're nominating it for setting awards.
[18:41] <BrooklynKnight> http://www.enworld.org/forums/news.php?page=ennies
[18:42] <Roudi> LOL... Eric, the Milli Vanilli of d20.
[18:42] <ECagle> gah.
[18:42] <BrooklynKnight> Entries must be submitted before June 10th,
2004
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[18:42] <Browwiw> I have my weather radio on, and the national weather
service uses this creepy computer-generated voice to give weather
reports
[18:42] <RichRedman> Ha! Cagle, I am SO spreading that around work
[18:42] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: If you can get your hands on 6 copies
of whatever you've worked on, and submit it before the 10th...
[18:42] <Browwiw> it's so creepy I just want to use it in an adventure
some how
[18:42] <MatSmith> Browwiw> Are you sure it's not just a creepy
robot?
[18:42] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> That big die is neat, Mat. :)
[18:42] <Napftor> use it as un undead creature's voice, browwiw
[18:43] <Browwiw> heh
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[18:43] <ECagle> Well, Wizards sends the stuff they own and TGM is
submitting the other. So, I'm covered.
[18:43] <MatSmith> Thanks, Marc. It turned out nice. =)
[18:43] <RodneyThompson> Much better,
[18:43] <BrooklynKnight> RodneyThompson: welcome back.
[18:43] <RodneyThompson> Thanks, changed computers.
[18:43] <BrooklynKnight> ECagle: I dont think WOTC Submitted Anything
last year. Are you sure they submitted it. The Ennies are much
younger compared to Origins..
[18:43] <ECagle> Adso> we need to build a trebuchet and see how
much damage the Fist of Emirikol can inflict.
[18:43] <Browwiw> I'm serious, though. The weather just gets worse
every year
[18:44] <ECagle> Brooklyn> I have no idea.
[18:44] <RodneyThompson> Talking about ENnie submissions?
[18:44] <RichRedman> Brow, that was a key point of GeneTech
[18:44] <Adso> Cagle> Now that sounds like fun!
[18:44] <Browwiw> yeah, i have that Poly edition
[18:44] <MatSmith> Yeah. Once the 1/day magic effect is used, the
Fist can still bean someone on the noggin.
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[18:44] <Browwiw> that's a good setting, by the way
[18:44] <RichRedman> HellHound!
[18:44] <RodneyThompson> I wanted to submit the Hero's Guide, but I
only have 3 extra authors' copies.
[18:44] <ECagle> Is Wiker alive?
[18:44] <Browwiw> if I wasn't so lazy, i'd work up Ice-Age mammal
Moreaus
[18:44] * Garen howls.
[18:44] <HellHound> okay Art, I lied... here I am.
[18:44] <HellHound> :)
[18:45] <MatSmith> JD is undead for tax reasons.
[18:45] * HellHound is supposed to be finishing off a book right now.
[18:45] <RodneyThompson> Eric: Undead.
[18:45] <RichRedman> Ha!
[18:45] <RodneyThompson> Damn! Too slow.
[18:45] <BrooklynKnight> RodneyThompson: Ask WOTC to submit them, You
have about a week left.
[18:45] <MatSmith> Heh.
[18:45] <ECagle> "Brrraaaains.."
[18:45] <Adso> Well everyone, my wife's yapping at me. I gotta go.
Take care.
[18:45] <JDWiker> I'm IMing.
[18:45] <BrooklynKnight> Later Stephen!
[18:45] <Roudi> ECagle... don't remind me
[18:45] <ECagle> Rodney> ask Chris...I know he realling likes that
book.
[18:45] <Browwiw> I always wanted to start a zombie one shot game
with a huge tornado
[18:45] <MatSmith> See you, Stephen.
[18:45] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Tell her I said Hi, Adso!
[18:45] <Garen> Later, Adso.
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[18:46] <Browwiw> what's worse than a zombie outbreak? a zombnie
outbreak with down trees and powerlines
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[18:46] <ECagle> gah. Me speaks English. Good.
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[18:46] <RodneyThompson> All I hear is that it's the fan-favorite
sourcebook in the SW line.
[18:46] <Roudi> LOL
[18:46] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> The room grows.
[18:46] <BrooklynKnight> A Tornado hits times square and deposites a
cache of 800 zombies which begin to ravage NYC.
[18:46] * Geist comes in to watch listen and envelope
[18:46] <ECagle> Heck yeah!
[18:46] <RodneyThompson> But I feel bad asking them to send $180
worth of product with no guarantee of entry.
[18:46] <BrooklynKnight> I think that makes for a good game, yea?
[18:46] <ECagle> tornadoes! Zombies! It's movie magic, I tell ya!
[18:46] <Garen> 800 zombies for 8 million people? Bah!
[18:46] <Roudi> Especially since zombies are more resistant to blunt
trauma than most creatures...
[18:46] <BrooklynKnight> Rodney: Thats the Risk.
[18:46] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> AFK 1 min. BRB
[18:47] <ECagle> Rodney> I can spare three books.
[18:47] <BrooklynKnight> Garen: to start, It spreads like wildfire.
[18:47] <Zouron> Rodney> you win some you lose some, no risk no
reward :-)
[18:47] <Garen> Ahh. "Contagious" zombies.
[18:47] <Roudi> Garen, following the line that zombies beget more
zombies when they kill, 800 is more than enough
[18:47] <RodneyThompson> True. No SW product has even been nominated
for an ENnie.
[18:47] <Browwiw> so, the Ennies are just a complex scam to get free
sourcebooks?
[18:47] <Roudi> Just one is enough to spread the zombiness
[18:47] <RodneyThompson> EvAr.
[18:47] <Garen> Basically, Browwiw.
[18:47] <MJasonParent> Yep
[18:47] <ECagle> Do not reveal the secrets of the ENnies!
[18:47] * Garen is afk.
[18:47] <MJasonParent> BUT, the guys who get the free books are voted
into those positions every year
[18:47] <ECagle> For there will be much wrath
[18:47] <BrooklynKnight> Actually, considering Peter Akison endorses
the Ennies awards, i think its more then that.
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[18:48] * MJasonParent envies ENnie judges for the swag
[18:48] <BrooklynKnight> I think its officially a Gencon/Enworld
venture.
[18:48] <RichRedman> I think I'm seeing a trend here...
[18:48] <Browwiw> damn it, that's better than my plan to get a bunch
of mildly crazy people to live in a communal house so I can
confiscate their monly gov't crazy checks
[18:48] <BrooklynKnight> whats the trend Rich
[18:48] <Browwiw> I actually knew a guy tried that, sadly
[18:48] <RichRedman> People entering the room, then going afk
[18:48] <BrooklynKnight> heh
[18:49] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Back
[18:49] <MatSmith> Has anyone sent free books off to the Caglies?
[18:49] <ECagle> Anyone? Modern Magic 2? Anyone....?
[18:49] <BrooklynKnight> Oh, Rodney, Eric said he was gonna come to
the dinner. So we can all get drunk together!
[18:49] <ECagle> heh.
[18:49] <BrooklynKnight> wait, i dont drink..
[18:49] <RodneyThompson> Heh
[18:49] <ECagle> wait, what?
[18:49] <BrooklynKnight> I can watch you get drunk and steal your
devleopment secrets!
[18:49] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I sent a copy of each MMagic volume
to the Caglies.
[18:49] <Browwiw> erh, yeah...yeah! I'm staring the People's Choice
RPG Awards, sponsored by Browwiw
[18:49] <RodneyThompson> Wow, low ambition there.
[18:49] <MatSmith> Sucker.
[18:49] <MJasonParent> I want to watch him get drunk so I can give
him the finger right back this time. :)
[18:49] <Zouron> ECagle> not much to talk about, the voodoo system
rules, maybe a bit to much slang in the rule explanation for it but
very cool.
[18:50] <RodneyThompson> Hey! That was an accident!
[18:50] * Geist kidnaps Mat JF and rich.
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[18:50] <RichRedman> Who's JF?
[18:50] <RodneyThompson> You'll never let me live that down.
[18:50] <Browwiw> goddam siren...going to the radio for a sec
[18:50] <MJasonParent> Actually, looking forward to drinking with
Expeditious Retreat again this year.
[18:50] <BrooklynKnight> Oh, by the way..
[18:50] <ECagle> Zouron> well, it's based on a real life religion,
so there's gotta be the slang.
[18:50] <BrooklynKnight> I think most of you guys here qualify to vote
in the Peer award.
[18:50] <BrooklynKnight> Just contact Mearls
[18:50] <MJasonParent> Maybe beating a free copy of D20 Future out of
Rodney while I'm at it.
[18:50] <Zouron> ECagle> for rules no, for flavor sure, but I
actually had to go back several time to get what riding the
horse ment
[18:51] <Zouron> I think that one was whee bit overboard
[18:51] <MJasonParent> Rodney - you still have the fragmented remains
of last year's ENnie?
[18:51] <RichRedman> heheheh
[18:51] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I think ours is still in one piece at
JD's place.
[18:51] <ECagle> Zouron> fair enough. It was a lot to boil down
into 20,000 words.
[18:51] <BrooklynKnight> Jason: at the dinner i'll have a table set
aside to keep the ennies safe.
[18:51] <JDWiker> Yes, it's still in one piece.
[18:52] <Browwiw> I should throw my crapped up computer out in the
yard and let FEMA by me a new one
[18:52] <Zouron> ECagle> of course, just the meaning of it were
a bit unclear, my opinon, I loved voodoo way more then the one
in the first
[18:52] * Geist really needs to actualy finish a project so he has a
chance for an ennies. i keep trying to for this year but keep
failing..
[18:52] <ECagle> It's in one piece because Marc cradles it all
the time, muttering "MWAHH HAAH HAA!"
[18:52] <RodneyThompson> Yeahm I have the shards
[18:52] <Geist> creating an entire book on your own isnt easy
[18:52] * MJasonParent finally got his ENnie from the second ENnies four
months after the third ENnies.
[18:52] <BrooklynKnight> Geist: too late for this year. The product
had to have been released before may 31st
[18:52] <RodneyThompson> Whoever made them is supposed to help me
fix it
[18:52] * RichRedman rolls on the floor over what Eric said
[18:52] <ECagle> Zouron> you mean Skull and Bones?
[18:52] <Geist> Knight> i know they did :P
[18:53] <Geist> there was no way i was rushing my hackers project.
[18:53] <MJasonParent> Rodney - that would be AlSiH20 on the ENworld
boards
[18:53] * Geist has to put a decent net hacking book out. all the current
stuff is sloppy
[18:53] <RodneyThompson> Yeah
[18:53] <Zouron> ECagle> no idea what the magic system was called,
it was all about some five element babble
[18:53] <RodneyThompson> He lives in Memphis, but I never head that
far west
[18:53] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Ritual magic, Z?
[18:53] <RodneyThompson> He said if I did he'd fix it for me...
[18:53] <ECagle> oh. Heh. That's my babble ;)
[18:53] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> It's pretty babble :)
[18:54] <Zouron> eff> the magic system replacement ;-)
[18:54] <RodneyThompson> We loves it, your precious babble.
[18:54] <ECagle> I blame Marc for taking out all the articles and
swear words.
[18:54] <MatSmith> It lost a lot of flavor after that.
[18:54] <RichRedman> Yeah, but he put in the verbs
[18:54] <ECagle> Cat. Magic. Hit.
[18:54] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I had to make it FIT, Mr. I'll-write-
as-much-as-I-want.
[18:54] <RodneyThompson> MM2 was originally called "Eric Cagles Big
Book of *BLEEP*ing Rituals"
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> Eric, Rodney: if you're gonna submit the
starwars product. I'm gonna post the link for you one more time
with the relevant information...
[18:55] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> :)
[18:55] <Zouron> LOL
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> http://www.enworld.org/forums/news.php?page=ennies
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> there you go.
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> Good luck!
[18:55] <RodneyThompson> Thanks.
[18:55] * RichRedman can't chat because Rodney made him laugh too much
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> Products must be in by the 10th
[18:55] <ECagle> Well, Marc...I know when you say 20,000 words, you
MEAN 88,000.
[18:55] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I think that book would sell. Eric -
talk to me later this week :)
[18:55] <ECagle> Don't lie. :)
[18:55] <BrooklynKnight> So, i suggest ya send them out express,
really soon.
[18:55] <MatSmith> Heh.
[18:55] <MatSmith> It's true!
[18:56] <MJasonParent> Arthur Borko --> ENnies Pimp
[18:56] <ECagle> See, Mat hit's HIS word count. <grumbles>
[18:56] <RodneyThompson> See, I've got bead on the industry's NEXT
BIG THING
[18:56] <Zouron> ECagle> MM1's was in my opinion, a bit too much
babble that confused the meaning, MM2 wasn't as bad but still had
some leftover of it, so I guess if there is going to be a MM3 you
will do perfect heh :-)
[18:56] <RichRedman> No, no, Mat does NOT hit his word count.
[18:56] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Mat hits his word count EXACTLY. He's
that sort of writer. It's his copywriting training.
[18:56] <MatSmith> I hit it and forgot to slow dowm.
[18:56] <BrooklynKnight> Jason: I always pimp the things I support.
You know how dependable i am.
[18:56] * Roudi perks up at the mention of NEXT BIG THING
[18:56] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> He'll re-write a chapter until it has
just the right word count.
[18:56] <RichRedman> Unless we take the document away from him at
just the right moment, and then he keeps writing!
[18:56] <MatSmith> Did I *have* a word count?
[18:56] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> :)
[18:57] <ECagle> Art...having trouble with messages here.
[18:57] <MatSmith> Yeah! I even sit down an rework my stuff once it's
in the layout.--Consummate professionalism, that.
[18:57] * RichRedman refuses to rise to the bait.
[18:57] <MJasonParent> I come out within 20 words on either side on
assignments... but it's a lot harder to stay on target for a full
book. They tend to evolve...
[18:57] <BrooklynKnight> k
[18:57] <RodneyThompson> I think I'm going to write up a blog entry
on those adventure axioms I was talking about.
[18:58] <BrooklynKnight> you're on a mac, arent you
[18:58] <ECagle> heh, yup
[18:58] <ECagle> and a trial version of Ircle
[18:58] * BrooklynKnight pities you
[18:58] <RodneyThompson> No wonder your writing contains swear words.
[18:58] <BrooklynKnight> :-D
[18:58] <ECagle> Hey....
[18:58] <Roudi> HA!
[18:58] <Zouron> night
[18:58] <Roudi> So, what's the next big thing, Rodney?
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[18:59] <RodneyThompson> Eric Cagle writing vulgar ritual magic books,
of course.
[18:59] <BrooklynKnight> Macs are only good if you spend 4000$ on
them, and even then, only for video or layout and design editing.
[18:59] <RodneyThompson> And NPC class guides.
[18:59] <ECagle> Dem's fightin' words, me lad.
[18:59] <MJasonParent> No comment, Art.
[18:59] * MJasonParent refuses to get into OSWar III
[18:59] <ECagle> Rodney, yeah..wanna help?
[18:59] <RodneyThompson> And if you believe that, I have some land in
California I'd like to sell you
[18:59] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> BK: My sysadmin roommate would argue
against you. He bought a mac and got a mac, a unix box, and a
windows emulator all in one package.
[18:59] <Gary> Not my land, Rodney.
[18:59] <Browwiw> wait a minute...we're under a tornado *and* a sever
thunderstorm watch? not to offend any Wiccans that might be in the
room, but screw mother nature.
[18:59] <RichRedman> No OS wars.
[18:59] <ECagle> hehe. No offense taken ;)
[19:00] <BrooklynKnight> Now thats a good d20modern setting!
[19:00] <RodneyThompson> I'm in, E.
[19:00] <BrooklynKnight> "The OS Wars!"
[19:00] <MJasonParent> Hey Roudi - going to drag your ass down from
the Canadian North to GenCon this year?
[19:00] <ECagle> Brow> gotta work in those zombies with the bad
weather, I'm tellin ya!
[19:00] <RichRedman> It *could* be a good hook, but it doesn't leap
off the screen into my head.
[19:00] <BrooklynKnight> Blue Screens of Death rolling critical hits
against armed Penguins and Self Proppelled applies
[19:00] <Roudi> Likely not. I'm having to move back home to Brampton
to seek employment.
[19:00] <ECagle> GURPS Canada?
[19:01] <Roudi> Since this summer is my time to stock up on grocery
funds for the next school year, spending money to go to GenCon is
hard to justify.
[19:01] <Gary> That would be "GURPS Eh!"
[19:01] <Browwiw> Cagle, I have a 20 foot diameter sink hole in my
front yards that has actually opened up an old flooded mine shaft...
I have no doubt the zombies will come from that
[19:01] <MJasonParent> No no no... "GURPS Beer Hunting, eh"
[19:01] <RichRedman> My neighbor's dog has been barking since I got
home two hours ago, and is the reason why I didn't get my mail
today. I must either kill the dog or have words with my neighbor.
Either way, talk to you next week.
[19:01] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Eric: What magic flavor would be neat
to write up but wasn't in Modern Magic? Opinion?
[19:01] <Roudi> "All right, roll up yerself a hoser... I mean,
'char-ac-ter'..."
[19:01] <RodneyThompson> GenCon is like a vacation and a career
opportunity.
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[19:01] <BrooklynKnight> gencon tires me out
[19:01] <Roudi> Oh, I know, Rodney
[19:01] <ECagle> eff> as in another magical system?
[19:02] <Roudi> Hard to justify to my parents that d20 writing is a
viable career.
[19:02] <RodneyThompson> I have an idea on that, Marc...
[19:02] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Yeah. We have Ritual, Voudon,
(Military)....
[19:02] <MJasonParent> Rodney: You forgot "and a horrifying nightmare
of drinking, table dances and carnage"
[19:02] <BrooklynKnight> Eric: the message i sent ya was How much pull
do you have with the wotc d20modern webcontent :-p
[19:02] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Feel free to speak up, RT.
[19:02] <ECagle> brooklyn> Some...sorta.
[19:02] <Roudi> Since they fund my education, they get more than
enough say into my career choices, sadly.
[19:02] <Roudi> Won't stop me from writing, mind.
[19:02] <BrooklynKnight> Poly is dead, and Erik never got back to
me -_-, i've been sitting on this class forever.
[19:02] <RodneyThompson> MJP: Uhh...the memory's a little fuzzy on
that front...probably because of the wild parties at Marc's place
[19:03] <Gary> Marc throws wild parties?
[19:03] <MJasonParent> Ah... my fuzzy memory comes from the White
Wolf parties.
[19:03] <Browwiw> Roudi, I'm a double English major and an Education
Major...parents get used to throwing their money away
[19:03] <ECagle> haw!
[19:03] <ECagle> With Marc's mom bringing out more soda ;)
[19:03] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Yeah. Ward and June really know how
to host a shindig.
[19:03] <Gary> Kick ass.
[19:03] <Roudi> Browwiw, how ironic... I'm an English Major soon to
be an Education major.
[19:03] <Gary> Do we get to eat rice crispie squares?
[19:03] <BrooklynKnight> I'm a TV/R major
[19:03] <ECagle> Eff> I'd like to see a good Shamanism write up
[19:03] <RodneyThompson> As for what MM didn't cover...I've been
looking for a good, abstract magic system.
[19:04] <Roudi> See, I'm not their child, I'm their investment.
Eventually, I'm supposed to "pay back" everything they've put into
me by taking care of them when they retire.
[19:04] <RodneyThompson> I've been kicking around translating Ars
Magica's basic precepts to Modern.
[19:04] <ECagle> out of body experiences, ancestor/animal spirits
[19:04] <RodneyThompson> Eric: I like the latter
[19:04] <Browwiw> not only that, my English degree emphasis is
creative writing
[19:04] <RodneyThompson> Animal Totems could be very cool.
[19:04] <Browwiw> and here we have Rodney, whose some computer tech
major in a frat, and he's already broken into the industry
[19:04] <BrooklynKnight> Hey! there is a great d20modern adventure
hook on the news right now!
[19:04] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Well, ArM is a great system, but
it's not open as far as I know :)
[19:04] <Roudi> Wish I could emphasize such at my univeristy... sadly,
Creative Writing is but two courses here.
[19:04] <Browwiw> wheres the justice in that?
[19:05] <Roudi> None, I tells yeah.
[19:05] <ECagle> I just don't want to convert Vitrifilius to d20 ;)
[19:05] <RodneyThompson> Well, I just meant the idea of a "part A +
part B = effect C" magic system
[19:05] <Roudi> Mind you, I've "broken into" the industry too... just
not at Rodney's level.
[19:05] <MJasonParent> brb - more beer
[19:05] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I'm in the industry, but that doesn't
mean I have a paycheck.
[19:05] <BrooklynKnight> Being that i'm in Arms and Armor by bastion
press, what level does that place me at?
[19:05] <Gary> See you blokes in about a week.
[19:05] <RodneyThompson> I take that as a compliment, Roudi.
[19:06] <RodneyThompson> Gary, take care of yourself.
[19:06] <RodneyThompson> Catch you soon.
[19:06] <Roudi> You're welcome.
[19:06] <Browwiw> actually, if I actually just got off my ass and
produced something i could easily published in at least local and
area magazines
[19:06] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Later, G.
[19:06] <BrooklynKnight> and i hae the personal phone numbers of many
industry bigwigs in my cellphone.
[19:06] <Gary> You, too Rodney. Don't work too hard.
[19:06] <BrooklynKnight> that has to mean something.
[19:06] <BrooklynKnight> :-D
[19:06] <Browwiw> but, I am lazy and my own worst enemy
[19:06] <Roudi> I've been working for the Brood for nearly a year
now... our last release, Quickshots Charlie, was NPC'd and Monstered
almost entirely by me.
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[19:07] <RodneyThompson> Another idea I've liked in the realm of d20
Magic is Wheel of Time's magic system....basic spells that you can
"pump up" or add effects to without needing to learn new spells...
[19:07] <Roudi> BK here was responsible for much of the NPC work on
Quickshots Alpha and Bravo.
[19:07] <Browwiw> I just want to write decent literature
[19:07] <Roudi> Ditto, Browwiw.
[19:07] <Browwiw> no matter what the genre or medium
[19:07] <RodneyThompson> Essentially, devoting more of your power to
a spell to give it new abilities.
[19:07] <MatSmith> Rodney> I was in the midst of asking if you'd
checked out the WoT and the Weave.
[19:07] <RodneyThompson> Well, I'm a big WoT buff anyways, so I may
be biased.
[19:07] <MatSmith> I liked that system--very nifty things you can do
[19:07] <ECagle> Sorry, had to let the mutt out.
[19:08] <RodneyThompson> But I like the idea of metamagic without
feats.
[19:08] <ECagle> He was gonna "ehsplode"
[19:08] <MatSmith> Me too.
[19:08] <RodneyThompson> I've got a handful of variant magic systems
I've tinkered with and playtested that never went anywhere.
[19:08] <ECagle> Beer does not equal a magic system, Rodney.
[19:08] <RodneyThompson> Wish I'd know about Unearthed Arcana in time
to see if Ed would have let me in.
[19:08] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> It is to the hops and barley.
[19:09] <RodneyThompson> Har har har.
[19:09] <ECagle> :)
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[19:09] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] summons ECagle.
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[19:09] <RodneyThompson> Am I to be known as the drunken, frat boy
author from now on? Because MJP has the drunk part down pat.
[19:09] <BrooklynKnight> Roudi: I was?
[19:09] <BrooklynKnight> Roudi: I just edited them... :-p I didint
write them. heh.
[19:09] <Browwiw> I'm drunk, humid and angry...where Dana Jorgenson?
I need to work out some misplaced anger
[19:09] <Roudi> Well, you said so.
[19:09] <MJasonParent> LOL
[19:09] <ECagle> Marc...give me the power of Greyskull!
[19:09] <Roudi> Sorry, my bad.
[19:09] <BrooklynKnight> Editing, Playtesting.
[19:10] <MJasonParent> Damn... How long have you known Dana?
[19:10] <Roudi> Browwiw... LOL
[19:10] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] passes ECagle some power of Greekskull.
[19:10] <Roudi> We need an online punching bag with his face on it.
[19:10] <RodneyThompson> I'll tell you one thing I *really* want to
write a book about.
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[19:10] <RodneyThompson> Modern planeswalking.
[19:10] * MJasonParent has been 'dealing' with Dana since starting writing
Cyberpunk 2020 fanpages years ago
[19:10] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] passes Eric some of the power of Yorik's
skull.
[19:11] <RodneyThompson> No one has touched it much yet (and now
having said that I've given away my idea ;) ) but I think it could
be done really well.
[19:11] <ECagle> Eh, it'll do.
[19:11] *** Marcus_Fenway has quit IRC (Quit: "Me, I'm dishonest, and a
dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest. Honestly, its
the honest ones you want to watch out for, cause you can never
predict when they are about to do something incredibly stupid."
- Capt. Jack Sparrow.)
[19:11] <Browwiw> I only know Dana from the d20 boards...I have no
idea about him beyond his online persona, but I have this mental
image of him living in his mother's basement
[19:11] <Browwiw> cradling weapons and sobbing
[19:11] <MJasonParent> His persona on-line hasn't gotten any worse
than it was ten years ago.
[19:11] <Roudi> He's a self-published d20 writer, Browwiw.
[19:11] <Browwiw> I know
[19:11] <RodneyThompson> You see it all the time in other modern
games/genres...Werewolf has the Umbra, lots of modern horror has
"other worlds" and so on.
[19:11] <ECagle> Did Redman flee?
[19:11] <Browwiw> he's told me...and everyone else
[19:11] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] tries to come up with another topic about
Modern Magic. He's a consumate grassroots marketer.
[19:12] <RodneyThompson> I'm just babbling here. I stop now.
[19:12] <MJasonParent> He's also a self-published fantasy RPG author.
[19:12] <MatSmith> Make it good, Marc. I'm on my way outta here.
[19:12] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Anyone: What's your favorite Modern
Magic spell or FX item?
[19:12] <Roudi> He's written some particularly amusing reviews for
Quickshots Alpha and Bravo.
[19:12] <MJasonParent> He sold 200-something copies of his old game...
[19:12] <RodneyThompson> Finger Nail Gun!
[19:12] * effrenatus[TGM_Marc] captures Mat's attention.
[19:12] <Browwiw> oh, jeez
[19:12] <ECagle> DANG! you beat me to it .
[19:12] <BrooklynKnight> So.. Eric: heh.. *looks innocent*, reember
that advanced class ya liked so much? Would it be possible to maybe
get it up as web content on the wotc site? I have no chance of
getting it into Poly now -_-
[19:12] <RodneyThompson> Or the screen saver one.
[19:13] <MatSmith> Zzzt!
[19:13] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> What was your fav, Mat?
[19:13] <MatSmith> I like the illo. on Hypnotic Screensaver.
[19:13] <ECagle> Brooklyn> talk to Rich Redman, actually...he's
putting more online content on than I am. He could work it into a
"In the Bunker" column.
[19:13] <MatSmith> Umm. Lemme think.
[19:13] <BrooklynKnight> 0o0o.
[19:13] <ECagle> Cell Phone Hand :)
[19:13] <BrooklynKnight> and he left! lol
[19:13] <RodneyThompson> ...with a sufficient bribe, BK
[19:13] <BrooklynKnight> i'll email him later.
[19:13] <ECagle> Has to get better reception than my crappy Erickson.
[19:13] <BrooklynKnight> Well, i originally wrote it for an MPC Web
Enhancement.
[19:14] <MatSmith> Really, I like the suite of pantomimed spells the
best.
[19:14] <BrooklynKnight> Mark here is never gonna get to it though :-p
[19:14] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Phantom Oil Well: Fire a shotgun into
the ground and up comes a bubblin' crude. Mage 4.
[19:14] <BrooklynKnight> its really good, and i'm really really proud
of it, i just want it out there, officially, any way i can manage.
[19:14] <RodneyThompson> Good one.
[19:14] <ECagle> I also like the Postcards that transport you to the
location of the picture. Good adventure hook, that one :)
[19:14] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Jed was a wizard.
[19:14] <BrooklynKnight> I like the spells that change the
traffic lights!
[19:14] <MatSmith> =)
[19:14] <BrooklynKnight> >_>
[19:14] <BrooklynKnight> err, you have those right?
[19:14] <ECagle> "And up from the ground came a bubblin' ooze."
[19:15] <RodneyThompson> Alright, gents. I've got to head home now.
I'll be online later if you want to chat.
[19:15] <MatSmith> See you, Rodney.
[19:15] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Later, RT. Hope to see you next week!
[19:15] <BrooklynKnight> l8er bro!
[19:15] <ECagle> Take care Rodney...see you in the Hyatt Lounge ;)
[19:15] <MJasonParent> l8r Rodney
[19:15] <Browwiw> i like the phantom cell phone spell, where you
listen to your thumb and talk into your pinkie
[19:15] <RodneyThompson> I'll be here, but a little late.
[19:15] <RodneyThompson> Eric: We'll have to talk before Origins
[19:15] <Browwiw> seeya, Rodney
[19:15] <RodneyThompson> Later all.
[19:15] <ECagle> okeedokes
[19:15] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I wonder how good the reception is
on that hand.
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[19:15] <MatSmith> Cellular Hand--yep.
[19:16] <BrooklynKnight> Chris? Chris who?
[19:16] <ECagle> "Can you hear me now? Good."
[19:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> "My palm says 'out of zone.'"
[19:16] <Chris> the only chris that exists here
[19:16] <Browwiw> cell phones just make people look crazy...i love it
[19:16] <BrooklynKnight> There are far too many Chris' and Erics in
the industry
[19:16] <MatSmith> along with Hand Grenade, Hand Gun (Greater Hand
Gun), and Point-n-Shoot.
[19:16] <Roudi> Far too few Davids.
[19:16] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Hello, Chris.
[19:16] <BrooklynKnight> No Arthurs!
[19:17] <BrooklynKnight> well
[19:17] <BrooklynKnight> they got me
[19:17] <Roudi> MatSmith... why does Hand Grenade sound like something
out of Death Race 2000?
[19:17] * Chris = Bynw
[19:17] <BrooklynKnight> ah, ok
[19:17] <ECagle> Too few game designers with umlouts in their names.
[19:17] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> sneaky.
[19:17] <MatSmith> Roudi> I dunno--Did they use hand grenades in
Death Race 2000?
[19:17] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> At least we have Rein*Hagen and his dot.
[19:18] <Chris> yeah thats cool
[19:18] <ECagle> I'll change my name to Er%* von C#$le, esq.
[19:18] <Roudi> Mat... yep... the main guy had a grenade in the shape
of a hand over his actual hand... a literal "Hand" grenade.
[19:19] <Roudi> C'mon... a last name like "Gallant" has got to be
distinctive in the d20 industry
[19:19] <MatSmith> Ah. That's funny. A sort of pirate accessory. In
lieu of a hook, you know.
[19:19] <MJasonParent> LOL - first time I met Mr Rein*Hagen, he was
in the process of falling over me...
[19:19] <Roudi> Exactly, Mat.
[19:19] <Roudi> It was the worst pun in the movie.
[19:19] <ECagle> Yeah, but you can't say "yar, matey" with a hand
grenade hand.
[19:19] <MatSmith> I imagine that's saying something
[19:19] <MatSmith> Right. I've gotta take off.
[19:19] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Later, Mat! Thanks for stopping in.
[19:19] <ECagle> see ya mat. BBQ city tomorrow.
[19:19] <Roudi> later Mat
[19:20] <BrooklynKnight> bye mat!
[19:20] <MatSmith> Anytime. BBQ tomorrow, yes. See all of you guys
later.
[19:20] <JDWiker> Cagle, don't forget: No comics tomorrow, so
maybe no barbecue, either. (That is, the usual gang may not go.)
[19:20] <MatSmith> (Melissa says "Bye from me")
[19:20] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Later, Melissa!
[19:21] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> If BBQ is on Thurs, I'm in.
[19:21] <MatSmith> Me get BBQ. Comics, bah!
[19:21] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Let me know.
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[19:21] <MatSmith> See you guys sometime in the indeterminate future.
[19:21] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Otherwise, I can't justify the gas
money, which is more than the lunch :)
[19:21] <BrooklynKnight> i need to go work on my script
[19:22] <BrooklynKnight> L8er everyone! Eric, Thanks for coming,
and confirming, see ya at the con!
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[19:22] <ECagle> Take care, Arthur.
[19:22] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Later, BK!
[19:22] <Roudi> Later folks
[19:22] <Roudi> Wait, only BK is going... Later BK!
[19:23] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I think we're slowing down.
[19:23] <ECagle> Yeah.
[19:23] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> It is about time to wrap up.
[19:23] <ECagle> I'm outtie too. Dog walks in my future.
[19:24] <Roudi> All right. Been fun, folks... keep it up.
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[19:24] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Give Mocha a good "blam" for me, Cagle.
[19:24] <ECagle> We covered the book, the RPGA, zombies, the ENnies,
and tornadoes. NOt too bad for one night.
[19:24] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> :)
[19:24] <ECagle> I need the blam board for that.
[19:24] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I'm going to try to get the past two
weeks of chats posted on the website this week.
[19:24] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> OK, just scratch behind his ears.
[19:24] <ECagle> :)
[19:24] <ECagle> bye ya'll.
[19:24] <BrooklynKnight> ECagle: you should start a live journal :-p
[19:24] <BrooklynKnight> l8er!
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[19:25] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> I think it's time for me to take off,
too. Been here about 2.5 hours now, and need some real dinner.
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[19:25] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Thanks everyone for coming!
[19:25] <effrenatus[TGM_Marc]> Hope to see you each Tuesday.
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